Lumbar intervertebral hernia symptoms and treatment reviews

Elena wrote (a):
Good afternoon! I am 37 years old. My back (lower back) has been bothering me for about two years, at first the pains were insignificant (after two, three days passed by myself), in March 2013 the pains became more intense, I had to turn to a neurologist. The doctor diagnosed osteochondrosis and prescribed treatment (milgamma, amelotex, midocalm, physical therapy) after treatment became better, but on May 1, 2013, exactly one month later, a new attack (the pains were hellish) again injections (amelotex, combilipen, arthra). She did an ultrasound of the lumbar spine – protrusion of L5-S1 discs (5 mm), L5-S4 discs (6 mm). The neurologist whom I observed said that I had nothing to worry about, everyone had protrusion, so go to work and don’t worry. From May 2013 to October 2013 I took ARTRA and took care of my back. It seemed that everything was normal and gradually I began to forget about her. At the end of March 2014, my back again made itself felt and I did an MRI – the result is not comforting. On MRI, a decrease in the MRI signal from L 5-S4 discs is determined, a median hernia with moderate left-sided laterization of L5-S1 discs (vertical size – 15 mm, front 10 mm, sagittal 10 mm) is determined, the dural sac is significantly deformed, the spinal cord is unchanged. The size of the spinal canal is 20-22 mm.
She was sent for a consultation with a neurosurgeon, said that only the operation, when you are completely pressed, come and I will operate. The condition was on the verge of hysteria. I turned to a paid neurologist – he said that surgery can always be done, it is necessary to be treated. He prescribed injections (Alflutop No. 20, Neuromedin No. 10, Milgamma Tablets), Sirtalud, Vitamin E, ARTRA) and physical therapy (electrophoresis with caripain) 3 courses of 30 procedures. At the moment I have done 16 procedures, I take pills, I lie 2 times a day for 30 minutes on the Kuznetsov applicator, I do the exercises. Now I feel like normal (I sit without pain, there is no pain when walking, leaning forward, I feel subtle pain somewhere in the tailbone, I constantly wear a bandage based on goat fluff, I try to walk for at least 2 km., But by evening the lower back starts to ache a little, and sometimes there is a feeling of numbness below the knee of the right leg and a feeling of goosebumps. Doctor tell me the treatment plan is correct, can I still take something, or is it all in vain and still the operation is waiting for me? very grateful for the answer.

Good evening! My name is Radik.
Already 1,5 years my lower back hurts. The doctor sent a neurologist to an MRI.
According to the conclusion of MRI, I was diagnosed with MR – signs of intervertebral ostiachondrosis of the lumbosacral spine, with protrusion of the L5-S1 disk and L4-5 hernia.
The doctor neurosurgeon prescribed treatment:
1- Fiz. a solution of 0,9% -200 + dexamethasone 8mg + aminophylline 2,4% -10ml I / V alternate No. 5
2- Fiz. a solution of 0,9% -200 + trental 5ml I / V alternate No. 5
3 neuromidin 15 mg V / m No. 10
4 alflutop 1ml V / m No. 10
5 omeprazole 20mg.

And the neurologist prescribed a completely different treatment.
1 dexalgin 2,0 V / m No. 5
2 midcalm 1,0 V / m No. 5
3 dexamethasone 1,0 V / m No. 3
4 nikatinka
5 neuromidine 20mg
6 carbomazipine retard 0,2
7 pentoxifylline 0,2
8 nise 100ml.

Please tell me which of these treatments will be more effective.

Radik wrote (a):
Good evening! My name is Radik.

Already 1,5 years my lower back hurts. The doctor sent a neurologist to an MRI.

According to the conclusion of MRI, I was diagnosed with MR – signs of intervertebral ostiachondrosis of the lumbosacral spine, with protrusion of the L5-S1 disk and L4-5 hernia.

The doctor neurosurgeon prescribed treatment:

1- Fiz. a solution of 0,9% -200 + dexamethasone 8mg + aminophylline 2,4% -10ml I / V alternate No. 5

2- Fiz. a solution of 0,9% -200 + trental 5ml I / V alternate No. 5

3 neuromidin 15 mg V / m No. 10

4 alflutop 1ml V / m No. 10

5 omeprazole 20mg.

And the neurologist prescribed a completely different treatment.

1 dexalgin 2,0 V / m No. 5

2 midcalm 1,0 V / m No. 5

3 dexamethasone 1,0 V / m No. 3

5 neuromidine 20mg

6 carbomazipine retard 0,2

7 pentoxifylline 0,2

Please tell me which of these treatments will be more effective.

Hello, Radik.
The treatment regimens prescribed for you are identical. Both of them are aimed at relieving pain. That is, this is a symptomatic treatment aimed at combating the consequence of the disease. The reason is damage to the intervertebral disc and ligamentous apparatus of the spine – requires complex and lengthy treatment. According to the results of MRI, you have a herniated disease of the spine. Some drugs cannot be dealt with here. Otherwise, the pain will return, and the disease will progress.

I would like to know in more detail what is bothering you? What pains: sharp or dull, where is the pain localized? Is pain in the legs, buttocks, inguinal region, perineal region carried out? Are there any problems with stools, bladder weakness, bloating?
Sincerely, MD Voitsitsky A.N.

Hello, worry about back pain. Here’s my MRI advise what to do.

Victoria wrote (a):
I am 14, and a year ago I started having back pain. She did nothing and the pain just started, she went to the doctor and they told me I had a disk shift, went to the Evminov center, they explained if I would not do the exercises on the board every day, go for massages and other therapies, then there might be an intervertebral hernia. I was like 2 weeks, because I could no longer, I had to go to the sports camp in the Carpathians. I’ve been doing sports for 5 years, I really like it, I don’t want to quit, because then everything could be said in vain. In summer, there is almost no pain, winter has come, serious preparation for the championships and, accordingly, heavy loads. My back began to hurt more often, then my knee did not make pains, the knee pain went away and I decided to jump in length, at first everything was fine, but then at one moment I felt a strong back pain, it was painfully bent forward back to side. I haven’t gone to trainings for 3 days already, I don’t dare to go to the doctor, because I can’t hear that they’re talking all the time, I need to quit sports for a while. Now it hurts to walk, sit down and stuff. I read a lot of comments and I think that I have a hernia, so I’ll probably go to the doctor tomorrow. If I abandon the sport for a long time, I don’t know if I can return, because it is just the beginning of the season. And can I return to sports at all?

Victoria wrote (a):
I am 14, and a year ago I started having back pain. She did nothing and the pain just started, she went to the doctor and they told me I had a disk shift, went to the Evminov center, they explained if I would not do the exercises on the board every day, go for massages and other therapies, then there might be an intervertebral hernia. I was like 2 weeks, because I could no longer, I had to go to the sports camp in the Carpathians. I’ve been doing sports for 5 years, I really like it, I don’t want to quit, because then everything could be said in vain. In summer, there is almost no pain, winter has come, serious preparation for the championships and, accordingly, heavy loads. My back began to hurt more often, then my knee did not make pains, the knee pain went away and I decided to jump in length, at first everything was fine, but then at one moment I felt a strong back pain, it was painfully bent forward back to side. I haven’t gone to trainings for 3 days already, I don’t dare to go to the doctor, because I can’t hear that they’re talking all the time, I need to quit sports for a while. Now it hurts to walk, sit down and stuff. I read a lot of comments and I think that I have a hernia, so I’ll probably go to the doctor tomorrow. If I abandon the sport for a long time, I don’t know if I can return, because it is just the beginning of the season. And can I return to sports at all?

Victoria wrote (a):
I am 14, and a year ago I started having back pain. She did nothing and the pain just started, she went to the doctor and they told me I had a disk shift, went to the Evminov center, they explained if I would not do the exercises on the board every day, go for massages and other therapies, then there might be an intervertebral hernia. I was like 2 weeks, because I could no longer, I had to go to the sports camp in the Carpathians. I’ve been doing sports for 5 years, I really like it, I don’t want to quit, because then everything could be said in vain. In summer, there is almost no pain, winter has come, serious preparation for the championships and, accordingly, heavy loads. My back began to hurt more often, then my knee did not make pains, the knee pain went away and I decided to jump in length, at first everything was fine, but then at one moment I felt a strong back pain, it was painfully bent forward back to side. I haven’t gone to trainings for 3 days already, I don’t dare to go to the doctor, because I can’t hear that they’re talking all the time, I need to quit sports for a while. Now it hurts to walk, sit down and stuff. I read a lot of comments and I think that I have a hernia, so I’ll probably go to the doctor tomorrow. If I abandon the sport for a long time, I don’t know if I can return, because it is just the beginning of the season. And can I return to sports at all?

Lumbar intervertebral hernia symptoms and treatment reviews

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They also began to look for what they are now offering for the fight against IPY. We do not want to resort to the operation unambiguously. They found the Bubnovsky Kinesitherapy Center. His method supposedly helps to completely get rid of a hernia. It is based on reasonably selected exercises for the short muscles of the back, which are precisely responsible for the development / development of hernias. Classes on the simulator. We understand, of course, that one course cannot be avoided, and this complex must be introduced into the rhythm of life. Therefore, I want to know if anyone has heard about this technique. Critical reviews were also found, supposedly increased loads, sometimes even through pain worsen the condition. Therefore, I want to hear the opinions of the forum men who had problems with the spine and how they overcame it.

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Hello JuliV!
The localization of a herniated disc in relation to the spinal canal and the condition of the spinal cord are very important. For example, if the hernia is central with signs of compression of the spinal cord at the level of the hernia, then you should not pull the operation, because with compression of the spinal cord spinal myelopathy develops (damage to the spinal cord) and if it goes far, then even the operation will not help, therefore that degenerative changes occur in the compressed part of the spinal cord and the lower parts are affected, for example, with lumbosacral hernia, weakness, numbness in the legs, and urinary incontinence can develop. Therefore, with such a hernia, which narrows the spinal canal, it is important not to start it.

If the hernia of the disc, for example, is lateral, that is, it falls to the side and, for example, back, and there is no compression of the spinal cord, then of course a conservative treatment is preferable: this is mandatory
-kinesitherapy: a correctly selected set of exercises aimed at strengthening the back muscles, oblique muscles and abdominal muscles, that is, we create a natural “muscle corset” that will hold the spine and protect it from any instabilities
This is physiotherapy: electrophoresis of drugs that strengthen the cartilage of the intervertebral disc and improve the exchange of cartilage, and other types of physiotherapy, if there are no contraindications
– it is imperative to treat exacerbations in a timely manner, if you grab your neck or lower back, well, you may feel too cold, awkwardly turn around, don’t pull, don’t expect it to pass by itself, be sure to consult a doctor, it will prescribe non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, muscle relaxants, B vitamins, be sure to rest, wearing a corset or fixing belt, physiotherapy. This is all if severe pain has appeared.

Another case when it is impossible to delay the operation: sequestered hernia, that is, when the intervertebral disc collapsed, the description of the image usually has all the information: what kind of hernia, where it fell, how many millimeters and whether there is compression of the spinal canal.

She wrote a lot, but said a little.
It is best to turn to a good neurosurgeon, he will tell you everything in detail about how to move, what exercises to do, where you can undergo treatment courses.

How to cure an intervertebral hernia at home

How I cured an intervertebral hernia

The evening was approaching, panic was growing. The action of painkillers passed, and the leg began to ache more and more. And so every day. In its dense nature, at first I thought that it was a simple sprain, the pain itself would pass, but there came a time when it became unbearable to endure. A week later, I went to the hospital. Did MRI – intervertebral hernia. The doctor looked at the picture, said: “The hernia is large, we must do the operation.” Mom dear, spinal surgery, no, so right away I will not agree.

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Overconfidence

– Can you do without surgery?

“It is possible,” the doctor once again glanced at the picture, “but I recommend surgery.”

Later, when I was receiving inpatient treatment, I talked to a dozen of my sick colleagues and realized how wisely I acted when I refused the operation.

Statistics report that herniated discs over the past few years have tripled worldwide. Annually, it is detected in 150 people per hundred thousand people

Almost everyone who transferred it returned to the operating table again.

Happily, but with a bad ending (such a paradox), surgery ended only for one of my new acquaintances.

Eight years after the operation, he felt like a normal person. At the same time, he clearly followed the recommendations: he did not lift more than three kilograms.

You can do without surgery

It was ruined by excessive self-confidence. In the summer, he and his wife brought home a plum crop from the garden. Plum lay in a wooden tray, which weighed twenty kilograms. The elevator did not work, and he dragged the tray onto the ninth floor by hand.

Five days later, the sinker was on the operating table, and now he was undergoing treatment with me.

Later, I found out that he repeated three more operations.

Rule number one

Hence the first rule: do not lift weights.

If you are a woman – do not drag heavy bags from the store or from the market.

In Germany, about twenty thousand patients with intervertebral hernia are operated on annually. In the USA, such operations are carried out exactly ten times more – 200

Go there twice, thrice, ask for help husband, boyfriend.

If you are a man, do not pay attention to the phrases: “What kind of man are you, you cannot rearrange the table.”

These people do not know what their reproach will turn out to be.

Rule number one – do not lift weights

Remember – you suffer.

Everyone will forget about the table and shops the next day, and you will lie in a hospital bed and howl in pain.

Back muscles strengthen when walking

I was prescribed treatment. Every day I came to the hospital and did the prescribed procedures.

Who was treated – they know: stretching in the pool, massage, current, ultrasound, gymnastics and more.

Two weeks later, the course ended and I began to wait full of hope for the pain to go away.

She did not leave, only slightly dulled.

A week later, I repeated the procedures in the same hospital for the second time.

Most often, pathological changes develop in the lumbar spine. 48% are detected between the last lumbar vertebra (fifth) and the sacrum. 46% – between the fourth and fifth lumbar vertebrae

They help many, but, as a rule, only for a year. After a year, the patient returns there to the same doctors who still remember him by name.

Someone does not help. To me, for example.

In consultation with my doctor, I almost in desperation asked: “What to do?”

He replied: “Walk.”

– Well yes! Buy yourself shoes with thick soft soles and go.

When walking, the back muscles are strengthened and the spine is held in position.

We must work, not laziness

The thought seemed sound to me, and I began to walk. The first month he covered a day no more than a kilometer, dragging his leg.

Then he noticed that it became easier to walk, I no longer dragged my leg, and the pain almost calmed down.

After a couple of months, my daily stretch was already five kilometers.

And a month later I went through a dozen every day.

I have been walking this way for five years now. I recently thought about it and could not remember which leg hurt: right or left.

During the day, our growth varies. In the evening, a person is two centimeters lower than in the morning. This is due to the fact that the intervertebral discs “flatten” a little when the body is upright

When it is raining or icy on the street, I work out on the simulator.

I bought myself such a cheap simulator (a thousand and kopecks), I will not name the brand, otherwise they will think that I am writing an advertising text.

But in sports stores there are many. It is simple, efficient and small. 18 cm high, -35 cm long. Five kilograms weigh.

I turn on the film, and until it ends, I pace on the spot. The benefits are no less than walking along the street.

We must work, not laziness

The most important thing is to develop a habit in yourself and not be lazy.

I understand everything – business, work, no time.

At first, I also thought that I could not stand it.

But, nevertheless, he rested like a ram and decided that health is still more important.

I remembered the constant aching pain that exhausted, exhausted, drove me crazy, made me crazy, and thought: “No, you can’t stop it.”

There is always an opportunity, there would be a desire

Five, ten kilometers is not as much as you think.

After all, it is not necessary to walk every day at the same time, along the same route.

The main thing is to gain these kilometers per day.

Do not get in a car or bus if you have several stops. And if you go far, get off at three, four stops to the desired one, go on foot.

Believe me, there is always an opportunity to walk during the day.

Intervertebral hernias most often appear in people aged 30 to 50 years. Those who exercise regularly are much less likely to get sick.

I went on a business trip, got off at the station at four in the morning, a change in two hours. You think you got into a chair and dozed off, however.

He went outside and for an hour and a half slowly and monotonously wandered around the station.

On business trips, I often travel long distances. At stations, the train sometimes costs an hour, forty minutes. What am I doing? I walk along the train.

By the way, the rhythm is unimportant. You can move quickly, slowly, very slowly.

But you can’t run, the blows are given to the sore spine.

Brilliantly simple things

In the winter I was on a business trip in Khabarovsk. December, frost, wind. There is no simulator, it is unrealistic to defile along the street. Went to the hotel room. He turned on the TV and walked from wall to wall for exactly an hour. Everyday.

At work, I tell my colleagues: “Every hour I have a warm-up. “Do not think that I am crazy, and do not be annoyed that I will loom in front of you, I just need to move more.”

I get up and walk past the rows of employees bent over the monitors. There and back again.

About ten minutes, but every hour. I do not care what they think, I’m afraid of the return of pain.

Approximately 30% of patients aged 35 years show changes in the intervertebral disc. At 60, degenerative changes of varying degrees are present in 90% of cases. Although not all of them lead to the formation of a hernia

But I am sure that every hour and a half a day everyone will be able to set aside for themselves without such tricks.

Headphones – in the ears, Queen “The show must go on” – and forward to the street.

Five kilometers is just an hour of time. Just an hour!

And in the spring, in the summer – it is a pleasure.

At the same time, the heart will become healthier, and it’s generally good for the body to walk.

Hernia will go away

I’m not talking about a hernia – it’ll leave!

Believe me, firstly, I experienced this on myself, and secondly, I promoted my method among patients.

The term “intervertebral disc displacement” is not entirely correct. The intervertebral disc is connected to the vertebral bodies very tightly, and is strengthened by strong ligaments in front and behind. He cannot move, that is, leave his normal location

Nine people who, like me, forgot about laziness, called me later, thanked me, said that they did not believe at first that everything was so simple and effective.

Simply! Everything ingenious is simple.

The genius, of course, is not me, and it was not me who invented this method, I just had the mind and perseverance to bring it to its logical end.

Therefore, my dear sick colleagues, do as I do. Go, go, go!

More importantly, the treatment is completely free. Do you know how many people will tear off for the procedures in the hospital?

In this article, I talk about my experience in the treatment of intervertebral hernia without surgery at home. But there are other examples. I recently came across a story on YouTube video hosting.

Video: Lumbar hernia. My treatment history

The bad is in the past

I still remember with horror today how I used to swallow Naiz, Ketanov, Ketorol every four hours, and injected Diclofenac and Analgin into myself.

Thank God everything is in the past.

Hello to mental workers! Smoking and a sedentary lifestyle are the main causes of hernia. Smoking lowers oxygen levels in the body, and intervertebral discs experience oxygen starvation. Overweight people are also at risk.

And a big request to everyone who reads this text, drop the address of this note on the forum, on social networks, anywhere.

The more people read this post, the better, and I am pleased if my method helps someone else.

Well, everything, I have to go for a walk!

Here is another way to get rid of intervertebral hernia without surgery, all from the same YouTube video hosting.

Morozov Georgiy

Georgy Morozov, rheumatologist. For more than 20 years, he has been involved in the diagnosis, treatment and prevention of joint diseases.

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